Ten more lies by Kremlin on MH17. This time by Russian embassy in Australia

The Russian embassy in Australia made on April 16 2019  this statement (statement in english here) on the website of the embassy. The statement is about the investi-gation on MH17. As with other statements by Kremlin on MH17 made in the past, it has many lies. In total I counted 10 lies and multiple nonsense statements.

Kremin lied many many times on MH17 in the past.  See my posts here, hereherehere,  here,  herehere here and here. "


HM: Those are not lies.


" Lie 1

Our country made every effort to ensure that the UN Security Council (UNSC) as soon as possible adopted resolution 2166, which enshrines the requirement for such proceedings.

UN Security Council resolution 2166 was authored by Australia. Only after some text changes Russia agreed with the resolution. The effort on the resolution was by Australia, not Russia.

Russia fails to mention it had used its veto for a resolution for a United Nations international tribunal on MH17. It was the only nation at the 15-member UN Security Council to oppose the move, triggering widespread condemnation."

HM: The time was not ready for SC to create aspecial tribunal.

Even yet it is not proved that this case is within the scope of the powers of the SC, because it is a SPECIAL ORGAN of UN for international security, war, armament and internationa and political terrorism questions. "Usual" crimes under criminal code, accidents even in armies, civil nuclear power or chemicals or infectios deseases are not in the scope on powers of SC, except it is aksed for military type etc. help by the General Assembly, the Secretariate, the International Criminal Court or by other special organs like World Heaith organisation WHO, the Atomic Energy Commission, International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) etc. which recognise some international security problem on their field of action.

It may seem evident that this is an international security question, but it must be proved (like the Iranian nuclear power question) by scientific means, for actions of SC in that. Without these presuppositions the resulution of SC in this case is an opinion.

For the International Criminal Court (or national courts) there are no limitations to start to study possible terror or military action cases, but when such are found, the case goes to SC and Special or International War Crime Court.

" “In order to avoid the risk of politicizing justice, it is best to set up the tribunal before deciding what the circumstances of the crash were,” the Dutch government said. "

HM: That is a wrong reason.

" A trial under Dutch law is now being prepared. Russia might then criticize  that a Dutch judge is not impartial. "

HM: It can investigate only Dutch victims. It cannot accuse states: not Russia, not Ukraine, not USA, or even ISIS. It must find personal guilties. Most what it could do in international security field is to prove for SC that it would have been for instance an international terror act, not an accident. (Thre has been accidents like that.)

But to prove that, a criminal court is not absolutely necessary. In this case the known missile is launched from the earth towrds that plane. It has been launched towards a known civil target or unknown human target.


" Lie 2 

Unfortunately, the activities of the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) do not correspond to the letter and spirit of the resolution. The investigation is being conducted with-out recognizing the key role of the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).

Kremlin is confused here. There are two investigations on MH17. One was done by the Dutch Safety Board (DSB) which investigated the cause of the crash. The DSB followed the ICAO guidelines for an aviation crash investigation. "

HM: So it has agreed that the plane was guided illegally over a warfare area - whici is absolutely prohibited in any case for a passenger airplane?


" The second investigation is a criminal investigation to establish who was respon-sible for the downing and was the motive was. This investigation is done by the Joint Investigation Team. "


" ICAO has nothing to do with a criminal investigation. "

HM: That is not true. ir instance ICAO is one who can prove this as an international war or terrorism case and turn it to the Security Council.


" Nonsense 1 

There are a lot of questions about the work of the JIT. First, Russia was categorically denied membership in the JIT.

That is very understandable! "

HM: NOT AT ALL! the plane was flying to Russia, the flight line was uder Russian administration, Soviet time armament was suspected to have used. The palne could have been hijacked by ISIS against Russia, and Russia could have even shot it down legally in that case! Or the case would have been a missile accident in Russian army, or in Ukrainian, ith Russian missiles!

" Right from day 1 it was pointed out by the United States a missile was launched from an area under control by Russia backed separatists. "

HM: USA is now itself among suspects. It is due to the other diappeared Malaysian Boing plane cases: their flight data is suspected to to have been manipulated after-wards. There are very few suspects who could have done so.As I soppose, ISIS itself is not among them.

If that is the case, the flight data on MH17 can also be manipulated afterwards.

" So Russia is a clear suspect. "

HM: The Dutch police has no right to suspect Russia as state, especially without a proved personal guilty. If it will find Russian such,the case will go to hands of compe- tent internationally legal courts... But it will not find, because competent Russians woud never have done so.

" In not a single criminal investigation the suspect is part of the investigation team. "

HM: Russia is not a suspect in competent invetigation. USA can be...


" Lie 3 

A number of presented evidence by the JIT  against Russia turned out to be nothing more than fakes mounted by the Ukrainian special services.

Russia has not been able to convince anyone that JIT evidence is fake. "

HM: That is wrong information!

It can convince all, who know something about the Soviet missile systems (like Finnish soldiers) and all, who read about them from the Russian academic miltary sources in Russian, like me.

" While the origin of most video’s and photos made in Ukraine is not known it is extremely likely these were made by common people who just saw the BUK TELAR passing by. "

HM: Videoes are a stement,not any prove. The same broken TELAR haas been seen before in Ukraine on same kindof a truck WITH MISSILES, although the remote cont-rol TELARs ARE NEVER WITH MISSILES EXCEPT ON FRONT or in parades and in filmin of videoes, WHERE THE MISSILES ARE ALWAYS FAKE!

" Many people in Ukraine have for example a dashboard camera installed in their car and carry a mobile phone. Also,a clear connection between videos and photos made of the BUK TELAR while in Russia and video/photos of the BUK in Ukraine was made. The images in Russia were made weeks before the downing of MH17. How could the Ukraine special service know this BUK TELAR would be involved in the downing before before the downing took place? "

HM: Most evident reason is that because it has iself shoot the plane down!

Bellingcat is a specialist of fake videoes and pictures.


" Lie 4

Secondly, why does the work of the group rely on dubious data from social net-works, unverified open sources, and cooperation with pseudo-investigators from the Bellingcat agency known for their fake stuffing?

JIT does not rely on the work of Bellingcat. JIT came to the same conclussions as Bellingcat. Data from social media networks is not dubious. Bellingcat is not known for fake stuff. This claim by Kremlin was never proven. "

Bellingcat is known ONLY ON FAKE STUFF!


" Lie 5 

At the same time, the primary raw radar observation  data provided by the Russian side, containing specific information about the crash, are being thrown off the threshold? This information is of critical importance – they can not be changed or forged.

Russia provided raw radar data to the JIT only two years and three months after MH17 was shot down. The radar data was not in the ASTERIX- format which is com-monly used in investigations. The manual was in Russian language and Russia did not provide any translation. The data is not disregarded by JIT. It was added to the file. Radar data can be changed or forged especially in two years of time. The data does not have any integrity checks. "

HM: JIT is incompetent - anduses that also as an "argument"...

" The radar data of a second radarstation which Russia confirmed also detected MH17 was never handed over. "

HM: Russians wat to see what JIT does with the reveved data. Not all eggs to same basket.


" Lie 6

Thirdly, why is Ukraine’s refusal to provide data of its radar stations to be taken for granted? It is reliably known that on the day of the tragedy, the Ukrainian radar stations were working with increased intensity

Ukraine stated it does not have primary radar data available. The civilian air traffic control service UKSATSE only have secondary radar available.

It is NOT reliably known that Ukraine radar stations were working. "

HM: Of course it is known, because the Ukrainian air taffic control GUIDED THE PLANE automatically, and OVER ILLEGAL REGIONS, AGOINST DENIAL OF RUSSIANS!


" Lie 7

Where is the data of objective control from the Ukrainian control tower in Dnepro-petrovsk, containing full information about the movement of flight MH-17, as well as records of negotiations of its employees?

There is no Ukraine control tower in Dnepropetrovsk. "


" It is a common error made by people who have no clue they are talking about. Air traffic control services are provided in a building being almost never a control tower. Only traffic at the ground of an airport or just before landing and after takeoff are controled by staff located in a tower.

The ATC-conversation between ATC and MH17 was made public by DSB.


Lie 8

Why did not the investigators interrogate any of the Ukrainian dispatchers on duty that day?

DSB did indeed not talk to the air traffic controller who was responsible for MH17. DSB stated this was not relevant to establish the cause of the crash. "

HM: That is not true.


" However JIT stated it did talk to the air traffic controller. "




" Nonsense 

What is the reason why the Ukrainian side does not provide information on con-firmed air defense activity, negotiations of servicemen, data on the presence and expenditure of missiles?

Russia does not know what kind of information is provided to JIT by Ukraine. There is no public evidence of any Ukraine air defense system being capable at July 17 2014 to shot down MH17 "

HM: There is evidence, on the Russian side...


" Lie 9

At a briefing on May 24, 2018, representatives of the JIT demonstrated a fragment of a 9M38 missile, which allegedly shot down a Boeing. It is well known that mis-siles of this type were fully decommissioned in Russia until 2011 and disposed of.

Photos show this missile in use by Russian armed forces near the border with Ukraine around July 2014.  For example this photo. And this article explains the Kremlin lie. "

HM: Those are no evodences.


" Nonsense 

Finally, why have Kiev not been charged in connection with the criminal decision not to close the skies over the combat zone for flights of civil aviation contrary to the requirements of ICAO?

There are no requirements by ICAO providing conditions for closing of the airspace. Each country is autonomous in deciding to close the airspace. "

HM: That is a lie! Each coutry is not "autonomous"! This is "usual intenational law". It is not absolute, because otherwise could happen, that it were impossille to some airports, but oit is also not allowed to break the law without legal reason!


" Nonsense

I would also like to know for what reason the investigation did not adequately respond to the statement by the US representatives that they have satellite images from the STSS spacecraft, allegedly confirming the version of the launch of the rocket by the Donbass militia. Why are these materials not yet published?

In January 2016 Dutch Minister van der Steur informed the parliament that US handed over information to the Dutch Military Intelligence Bureau (MIVD). For obvious reasons this material was not published. First because evidence is never made public before the start of the trial. Secondly because it is classified information. "

HM: A "trial against Russia" is not possible in this case. Donbass militia in not Russian. Desants behind front line could also launch missiles.

But most propable is that USA is lying.


" Lie 10

Russia remains committed to UN Security Council Resolution 2166 and remains ready to assist the investigation in order to establish the truth and bring the perpetrators to justice.

Russia failed to provide radar data of the Buturinskoe radar station. Russia failed to provide details to JIT about the whereabouts of the BUK TELAR. "

HM: JIT is not a competent invetigator. It is an infowar organ, and most stupid that I have ever seen in that field.


" The Dutch Public Prosecution Service press report mentioned the failure of Russia to hand over radardata  in this PDF.

“In reaction to this latest request, in August 2017 the Russian Federation provided a data set from UstDonetsk radar station. No data from the Buturinskoe radar station were provided. The data that were provided relate to radar images of 17 July 2014 during a limited period (16.02 hours – 16.32 hours local time).”

Fred Westerbeke, head of JIT, told at the JIT pressconference in May 2018 that JIT had asked a couple of weeks ago to Russia about the whereabouts of the specific BUK which belonged to the 53rd anti-aircraft brigade. Russia did not respond. "

HM: Westerbeke is a blockhead.

" Earlier, in October 2014 JIT requested Russia to hand over all relevant information.  The anwers by Westerbeke can be heared here.

Russia was requested in October 2014 to hand over relevant information about BUKs. They did not. Russia is not cooperating. At July 18, 2018 the G7 urged Russia to cooperate with JIT. "

HM: G7 has nothing to do with this.


JIT käy todistekauppaa.

Venäläisten mielestä ei ollut hyväidea, että JIT:lle toimitettiin romua, joka sisälsi avaintodisteen, ohjuksen osia. Ne olisi pitänyt toimittajaa lentoyhtiölle, ja jos ohjus selviää, valmistajalle. JITin lötämä ohjusmoottorin kappale oli myyty Ukrainan neuvostotasavallalle joulukuussa 1986, se oli kaikkein viimeisiä valmistettuja BUK 9M38-ohjuksia. Nyt JIT on ilmeiststi ostanut tietoja TELAReista joillakinkymmenillä tuhansilla dollareilla Donin kansantasavallan:n alueelta.

Следствие купило улику по делу MH17

Рамблер + ещё 1 39 минут назад  Об этом сообщает Рамблер.


Международное следствие по делу о катастрофе рейса MH17 в Донбассе купило улику у людей из ДНР, рассказал «Новой газете» осведомленный собеседник.
Малайзийский «Боинг» был сбит над Донбассом в 2014 году ракетой из зенитного ракетного комплекса «Бук». Погибли 298 человек. Официальное расследование крушения вела Совместная следственная группа. В нее входили представители Бельгии, Украины, Малайзии, Австралии и Нидерландов.
В середине июня ССГ назвала виновниками авиакатастрофы россиян Игоря Стрелкова, Олега Пулатова, Сергея Дубинского и украинца Леонида Харченко. Значительно раньше следователи заявили, что «Бук» был доставлен в Донбасс из России.
Весной 2018-го Совместная следственная группа показала на пресс-конференции части ракеты, найденные на месте крушения «Боинга», а именно сопло и корпус двигателя. Об этом сообщает Рамблер.

Их, как рассказал «Новой газете» осведомленный собеседник, следствие получило через неизвестных лиц из Донецкой народной республики. За это им было заплачено несколько десятков тысяч долларов.

    «Подлинность этого вещдока и истинные мотивы посредников являются на сегодня единственным непроясненным вопросом в деле МН17», — пишет издание.  Об этом сообщает Рамблер. "